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On the iQ service schedule the transmission fluid is just inspected at year 4. I tried asking the guy who did the Inspection and he made it sound like it was going to be a big hassle, there’s no way to check it, and that it’s life time fluid. From what I know, it’s been kept up with, it was mostly a fleet vehicle all of its life and appears to have been kept up on with the standard maintenance. I had to have the valve body replaced at 58k under warranty and the ATF looked like new then. 7 votes for 30k, Thanks everyone for all your help! yes, I know it’s complicated, I’d only have it done at a dealer. Then there’s no question you are satisfying the manufacturer’s recommendations should there ever be a warranty question. addendum: I like the way it drives and the high MPG. Not sure how to interpret that. On the east coast. I do that with my cars and there’s no mess, clean-up, etcetera. 2 votes for 50k, 50k sounds good to me! CSA. 2. how does subaru fill the trans at the factory? Most Toyota Corolla cars require that you change the transmission fluid at least every 20,000 miles or 24 months depending on the year model of the car. You might do well to change fluid at half that or 30K miles but be warned, it's not cheap. The will need a scan tool that can monitor the ATF temperature because the fluid level has to be set a specific temperature which appears to NOT be ambient or the normal operating temperature of the ATF. Toyota Fielder is equipped with (Continuous Velocity Transmission) CVT. one for never (dealer). 30k seems to be the suggestion from what I’m finding on Subaru Forester.org but some dealers are offering to drop the pan rather than a drain&fill to completely change the fluid but with a higher labor cost (600.00 just in labor in Orange county) or $300 for the drain&fill, update: If you want the fluid changed you'll need to ask them to do it. The chain/belt that transfers power requires clean, fresh oil to function properly. one for never (dealer), I’m replacing CVT fluid in my Nissans on 30K schedule, having drain-plug helps a lot. Plus you always need to buy the new washers. By using our Services, you agree to our use of cookies.Learn More. Not sure what else one could do. The idea is to change it before it changes appearance. Dear Ray, I have a 2013 Nissan Altima 4 cylinder with a CVT transmission. Okay, You got 'er, Bill! Well yeah, I remember on my TL, that fill plug was really tight. 1. With these CVT transmissions, there is a lot that go wrong with a simple fluid change. been told on a honda to make sure the fill plug can be removed before you take out the drain plug as they like to stick. 4. PS, the definition of “severe use” is such that just about all drivers are in that mode. Transmission fluid does not need to be changed during the entire lifespan of a vehicle. If it’s something I should get done, I don’t mind getting it drained and filled again when I get the oil changed. I’d just siphon or pump out as much fluid as I could periodically, measure what came out and put that much back. The Service Tech was surprised that the book said that and said that 48K it wasn't necessary to change the CVT fluid. Change the transmission fluid regularly, possibly every 30,000 kilometers. This is a very good instructional content for all those toyota car owners with CVT. So just another one of those things to scratch off the DIY list and have done at a shop or dealer for about $150. +1 Even if the fluid isn’t discolored, some of its additives could be depleted, and there is no way to determine this by appearance. The extra changes are cheaper than a new transmission! Low Transmission Fluid Symptoms. It has recommended service intervals (miles/months) for various routine maintenance procedures (oil change… For vehicles with a CVT; cube ®, Murano ®, Altima ®, Altima coupe, Maxima ®, Rogue ®, Pathfinder ®, Sentra ® and Versa ®, replace the fluid every 60,000 miles or if the CVT fluid deterioration data is more than 210000.; If towing a trailer or if the vehicle is driven on rough or muddy roads, replace the CVT fluid every 30,000 miles or 24 months. If you have an independent shop do it, make sure they are using the correct fluid and following the correct procedures. The manual says to change it if you use the vehicle to tow a trailer more than once. I have a Nissan published maintenance schedule that I downloaded from the internet. There’s no harm in changing your fluid early. If you have automatic, you can typically boost that range up to 60,000 to 100,000 miles. I’ve been looking for a straighter answer than I’ve been finding on this, I’m hoping there’s been some people here who dealt with it one way or another. update: The low end for an automatic transmission fluid change interval is around 30,000 miles (a little under 50,000 km). However, depending on the car you are driving, you may require to flush it a few times or change after every 50,000 miles. I drive 80% highway, 20% city, about 8000 mi per year. This fluid was first used in the following transmissions: 2013 K313 (Corolla) 2014 K41B (Scion IQ) 2017 K114 (C-HR) 2017 K312 (Yaris Thailand, Rumion 2013) 2020 K120 (Corolla) Just because it isn’t dirty or visibly worn out doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be changed. 2 votes for 50k, Add fluid if necessary. I don’t know how a dealer could look at the fluid and see that it’s ok. Better to replace the CVT oil every 100,000 Km. I know this is unknown territory, but I’d like some opinions. The oil change interval for CVT transmissions varies for each automaker. The recommended oil is Toyota Genuine CVT Fluid TC with part number 08886-02105 4 Litres. both fluid exchange or drain&fill will be just fine, for a fraction of a cost, I can totally imagine dealers inventing an additional cash generator for them, but I would not do it unless car was neglected badly and it needs a CPR vs. normal maintenance. As VDCdriver mentioned, it’s the additives part of it that comes into play. When CVTs first appeared they were met with the disdain of all auto enthusiasts. +1 For example, the Warranty and Maintenance Guide for the 2018 Toyota Camry says to change the transmission fluid at 60,000 miles when "Driving while towing, using a car-top carrier, or heavy vehicle loading" as well as when "Extensive idling and/or low speed driving for a long distance such as police, taxi or door-to-door delivery use." The fluid change did not fix the issue It could be a rotten heat shield down there in the exhaust assembly. I just did mine at 29K so I’m good for a while. I believe the manual says to check at 30k, and change at 60 if it’s had a lot of heavy use, or low speeds, being used similar to … CVT MAINTENANCE NOTES. Drive a new 2014 Toyota Corolla and you opinion about constantly variable transmissions (CVTs) will change. Even if the fluid isn’t discolored, some of its additives could be depleted, and there is no way to determine this by appearance. Requires inspection after every subsequent 40,000 Km under normal conditions and 25000 Km under severe conditions. Some say don't change it while others say change it every 60k miles. Drive CVT for 10 min 6. I believe the manual says to check at 30k, and change at 60 if it’s had a lot of heavy use, or low speeds, being used similar to a taxi or the likes. I have a Toyota Corolla Axio 2007 with K310-02A CVT. Another classic sign of a CVT transmission malfunction is a noticeable hesitation for the transmission of the car to engage a gear when you put the gear shifter in “D” or “R.” Issues like low transmission fluid, a loose belt, or a failing clutch pack of an internal transmission seal can cause the delay in gear engagement. Sometimes a vehicle will also keep track of fluid life inside its on-board computer and give you a warning when you are nearing its useful end. would be bad to drain the trans and not be able to fill it. However once every 4-5 years is worth it. If you drive manual, most manufacturers will recommend changing your transmission fluid every 30,000 to 60,000 miles. The manual states: Continuously Variable Transmission fluid capacity: 3.5L(3.7 US qt) at change 7.6L(8.0 US qt) at overhaul That also matches my experience as the fluid still look really dark when I did the second drain. It never had a transmission fluid change though. The idea is to change it before it changes appearance. The possibility of error is why I’m putting it off as long as is prudent. no dipstick. The idea is to change it before it changes appearance. I have 98k miles on Corolla 2014 Le ECO. But the cvt fluid change schedule is impossible to find from Toyota. Drain fluid 3. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. daytrippr Posts: 181 Joined: Mon May 05, 2008 1:56 pm Remove drain plug from CVT oil pan. I’d also got the recalls dealt with when I got it inspected, one was a jsd/jod campaign I believe where they check the transmission and change either a solenoid or the transmission if either were damaged, as far as I know, everything was fine. It's pricey to change as the fluid is $30 per liter up here in Canada and the CVT takes 5-6 liters if I remember. The oil change frequency should depend on the … The CVT in Honda cars are better than other brands. 2 votes for 50k, My erstwhile Compact SUV with a CVT in the US used to make a shrill metallic noise when accelerating. If you think about how often you may need to do a transmission fluid change-out (let's say, every 40-60,000 miles) then for a car that you would own until it reaches retirement age you may change the fluid 3-4 times. Hardly scientific. Remember to only use OEM Nissan Fluid. I recently bought a Toyota corolla sedan 2015 with a CVT transmission having 54,000 km,when do I have to change the CVT transmission fluid? Cookies help us deliver our Services. To all: remember this is a CVT, mostly unknown territory. one for never (dealer). 2013 - CVT Fluid FE. believe Subaru says to change CVT fluid at 100,000 miles which coincides with the 100,000 mile check of the chain Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. There is an access plug on the Pontiac somewhere around where the axle goes in but I’ve never been able to find it. I had changed the CVT fluid when we bought our used HRV 6 months ago. I have a question please. I’d recently got a 2017 Toyota Corolla le, just shy of 64k. I was told in a transmission school many years ago that the fluid does not necessarily fail. Seems like they are keeping the definition very broad for liability reasons. Thanks for any advice. On park, when I rev the engine I don’t hear this sound. The fluid should last at least 160K.I'll play it safe and get it tested at 100K. He says service the transmission every 30k miles (as I also recommend) and he has said that almost every transmission he has repaired or rebuilt died due to one of 2 things. Check fluid level. If you are going to do it, the dealer would probably be the safest place to have it done. No change of fluid appears on service schedule. The fact that the dealer doesn’t recommend a change is also a factor, ie, perhaps they are uncertain on the procedure? I was afraid I’d break the extension or ratchet. Lots of transmissions now have neither dipsticks or fill ports on top of the trans. The low level of fluid could be the result of it leaking through a cracked or worn out component. 4 votes for 30k, When to change the CVT fluid? The first is if your transmission fluid starts to smell burnt, or if it turns a dark color. Does this thing have a dipstick for the CVT? I’m just very scheduled oriented when it comes to stuff like that, and the lack of official info from Toyota and the contradicting info I’d seen and heard, as well as not knowing any mechanics I really trust is driving me a little nutty. I think over the years most of us have concluded that you change trans fluid at 30K intervals. Many cars require that you change the automatic transmission fluid when it's warm or hot. If the manual says 25K for severe use, and your driving qualifies for what they call “severe”, then 25 k intervals is the best choice. This is incorrect. I just don’t want to risk damaging the transmission getting the fluid changed if it’s not really worthwhile, nor cut its life short because I bought the “lifetime fluid” line. OEM manual instructs to drop a return house and do in-line replacement method, but they still provide a plug down below and it gets 5.5. quarts out of 8 drained, so it’s reasonably OK if done on 30K schedule, for 50K I would probably go with full replacement, so I would get car into the shop for 100% replacement. I would imagine “drop pan” to be used if transmission was not serviced for 20 years and 200K miles, but to do that with relatively moderate mileage… WHY??! I don’t know if the Subaru CVT is more reliable or not over the long term, go with 30k. these are new and possibly have problems, so I’d like to stay proactive. I collect the old stuff right into the bottles I haul to be recycled @ WM or Advance. It should be changed much sooner than automatic or manual transmission oil. I haven’t yet owned a car with a CVT, but when I do finally buy one, it will have its trans fluid changed every 30k miles, just like all of my previous cars. If you want to be safe, every 30k miles, especially if it's for Nissan NS-2 or Chrysler/Jeep CVTF+4 transmissions made by Jatco. As said earlier, it costs £115 by Toyota. It’s the additives that break down. In 2013, Toyota released the CVT fluid FE fluid specification for Continuously Variable Transmissions (CVT). Yes there is an extended warranty from Nissan on the CVT but check with them to make sure. I used 1/2" ratchet but needed an extension to reach and the extension actually torqued a little before the plug gave way. I have never checked the fluid level because the transmission dip stick has a seal on it that has to be broken to pull it out. Pour In New Transmission Fluid: Insert a small automotive funnel in to the transmission dipstick hole. 15000km/9000 miles ago. Below is a list of car brands and models along with the suggested CVT fluid change schedule. Use Nissan fluid as the problems are so high you don't want to shortchange there. so we have 2 votes for 30k, Runs great, no issues at all. You have to put them on a lift and pump the fluid in. But the cvt fluid change schedule is impossible to find from Toyota. A friend of mine is a transmission guy in business for over 40 years as a reputable independent. I find both extreme and am looking for a better number, say 50k? Fill CVT with tranny fluid at the charging pipe 5. I have a 2013 Toyota Corolla Type S. I went in for a 45k Tune Up and they told me I needed to get a fuel injector kit service and that I should be getting a Transmission Fluid Flush at 50k miles. Alternatively, you can check for two other signs that it might be time for a transmission filter change. 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